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  May 15th WT - Wives Should be Obedient, Submissive & Not Disagree

  by flipper in

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  once again we received the may 15th " witness only " wt from our lurking jw friend.

  even though i've been out for over 7 years and haven't attended in that long - i never cease to be amazed at the arrogance of this patriarchal man pleasing wt society in it's dismissive attitude towards women .

  it's horrible.

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  For everyone in this organization it's "sit down and SHUT UP!" only more so for the women!
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  How The WT's 144,000 Theology Hijacks Their Annual Memorial Meeting

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at last year's local memorial service, purported to honor jesus' sacrificial death and its signficance to the eternal prospects of humanity, the visiting speaker from bethel quite remarkably managed to talk for almost an hour without one recourse to the word "resurrection".. a remarkable achievement, given its centrality in the belief system of nominal christianity.

  nor were the stirring moments of high drama in the bible's depicting of jesus last hours on earth-- his last supper and his prayer for the well-being of his disciples, the betrayal of judas, the agony of the garden; his disciples' succumbing to sleep; his betrayal and arrest in the garden of gethesemane; the scattering of his fear-gripped disciples; peter's denial, and the climactic soul-stirring awareness of the signficance of the empty tomb and its guardian's chilling pronouncement to mary magdalene and the women "why are you searching for the living among the dead?"...

  and so on, to his post-resurrection appearance at emmaus, etc.. all of this was swept aside in favor of convincing those in attendance that they had no business in partaking of the emblematic bread and wine.

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  At last year's local memorial service, purported to honor Jesus' sacrificial death and its signficance to the eternal prospects of humanity, the visiting speaker from Bethel quite remarkably managed to talk for almost an hour without one recourse to the word "resurrection".. a remarkable achievement, given its centrality in the belief system of nominal Christianity.

  Nor were the stirring moments of high drama in the Bible's depicting of Jesus last hours on earth-- his last supper and his prayer for the well-being of his disciples, the betrayal of Judas, the agony of the garden; his disciples' succumbing to sleep; his betrayal and arrest in the Garden of Gethesemane; the scattering of his fear-gripped disciples; Peter's denial, and the climactic soul-stirring awareness of the signficance of the empty tomb and its guardian's chilling pronouncement to Mary Magdalene and the women "why are you searching for the living among the dead?"... and so on, to his post-resurrection appearance at Emmaus, etc.

  All of this was swept aside in favor of convincing those in attendance that they had no business in partaking of the emblematic bread and wine.
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  How do JW's know that the GB is getting closer to the truth?

  by Mad Dawg in

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  their claim, to cover up changed teachings, is that they are always getting closer to the truth.

  how do we know that the gb is closer now than they were 50 or a hundred years ago?

  how do we know that the gb hasn't been drifting away for the last 50 years?.

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  kjw53 - "I will take my chances at judgement 7 days a week with a religion that made mistakes and corrected them" ... it isn't a case of correcting mistakes but rather making ad hoc adjustments to rationlize and if possible rescue failed expectations, which the passage of time had already invalidated.

  The Society's history shows that such replacements have to date been as mistaken as the ones they replaced.
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  Anyone ever fake ring the doorbell when going door to door?

  by foolsparadise in

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  when i used to pioneer i would press to the side of the doorbell and act like i pressed it and then say "oh i think the bell must be broken".

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  .. all the time!
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  The Faithful and Discreet NOSTRADAMUS

  by Terry in

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  would you believe the governing body of jehovah's witnesses has something in common with nostradamus?.

  nostradamus and fred franz wrote prophetically in seemingly specific words which were complicated and required belief and interpretation.. nostradamus came up with a pill to prevent the plague.

  fred franz came up with watchtower theolgoy that would prevent death at armageddon.. nostradamus used as his sources just about every seer, prophet, astrologer and biblical soothsayer he could work into a quatrain.. the gullible bought in and found "meaning".

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  The most laughable irony is the application of the adjective "discreet" to these people. From Miram Webster's; " Definition of DISCREET

  1 : having or showing discernment or good judgment in conduct and especially in speech :prudent; especially: capable of preserving prudent silence"
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  June 15 W/T - "Should Youths Get Baptised?"

  by sizemik in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the above mentioned article caught my eye for a couple of reasons .

  .. it is obvious to most observers that the children of active jw's provide a potential "large army" and in spite of the attrition rate of jw youths (around 2/3's i believe), it's a resource the borg are keen to maximise.

  there tactics appear to be encouraging baptism at an ever younger age.

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  "Should youths get baptized?" Hell, yeah, since adults aren't stepping forward too much these days!
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  Why 6 Billion People Deserve to Die in Armageddon

  by Leolaia in

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  2. beliefs

  jehovah is such a righteous, merciful, loving god -- slow to anger, overflowing with loving kindness and blessing.

  yet it somehow bothers many of you that he will shortly execute his judgment on mankind and wipe out 99.9% of the world's population, as if that somehow is supposed to conflict with his loving qualities.

  personally, i have no idea why many of you feel this way.

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  ... and if all of these really nasty people have the good fortune to croak before the Big Day, they qualify for a resurrection!!
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  False Christians chose the modern Bible books

  by lifeisgood in

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  one of the issues that i discovered when i took two years off from the jws to just study the bible is the contents of the modern bible do not even come close to matching the contents of the holy books that the first christians used.

  not even close.

  off by over 550 books.. now, the jws claim that the catholic church is false religion.

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  I wonder how JWs, or any of the Protestant religions for that matter, rationalize their uncritical acceptance the canon as we know it, given its origin.
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  2011 district convention

  by obarac in

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  somebody know the theme of this years district convention or is still top secret?.

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  Ah, the annual "don't misbehave at the District Convention" article; as a sign of Spring as the chirping of robins and the daffodils coming up!
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  looky looky - A 'real' J-dub forum! (are they becoming normal???)

  by Reality79 in

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  2. friends

  so did the 'da society' give these dub internet savvies permission to start a forum?

  because last i checked, the ole boys in their oversized brooklyn bunker didn't want their members on the internet unless it was to view their own official websites.

  i thought maybe it was an apostate forum until i read their long winded, typically condescending jdub style membership guidelines:.

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  Are these yutzes tone deaf or not? How many times has GB railed against independent websites pitched even to loyal Jdubs?